so i can figure out simple chord progression using the circle fiths wich only uses minor and major chords plus one diminished how where and when can i use the other chord types?

id like to see the progressions you have come up with sounds good to practice

wiggs wrote:

so i can figure out simple chord progression using the circle fiths wich only uses minor and major chords plus one diminished how where and when can i use the other chord types?

well if your composing your own music you can use the other chord types wherever and whenever you like. If you get too radical your music might start sounding like some Frank Zappa stuff but ultimately composers really don' t have to follow any rules.

Hello civicstar, let me know if you like this prog; Dm, Bb, Gm, Bb to Bm....those are the intro chords to a song i really like.

Cheers,

GuitarZen

Really its a matter of degree.....no it really is lol..... um use the extensions that lend themselves naturally to the mode you are in.....how do I explain this..... for example In a I IV V progression the V can be played as V7 the IV can be played as a sus4 chord if you like or even a flat 5...there are alot of possibilites once you understand the construction of chords and the way that they relate to the relative modes of the major scale.

ill try that progression as soon as i get to my guitars
sounds like something i can use to practice

so from what xaviersky was saying you  replace the certain chord degress  such as  the  IV with sus4 with  and or the V with V7  my progression is C Am G G7 Then back to C  so instead of playing the V chord as V7 i just added the V7 after the V chord is this technically proper?

tried the Dm Bb Gm Bb Bm progression and it will take some work for me but once i got it down ill be jammin

GuitarZen wrote:

Hello civicstar, let me know if you like this prog; Dm, Bb, Gm, Bb to Bm....those are the intro chords to a song i really like.

Cheers,

GuitarZen

GZ what is the strum pattern

Sounds good civicstar98, so what sort of strumming pattern are you using since i din't mention any?

Hey bull_dog, think Neil Young electric stuff....he used those chords and other chord progressions similar to that early on.

Say for an open Dm, try a descending arpeggio, couple open D notes, palm mute a down strum, then a quick open downstrum. That should get you started. The Bb is barre and down strum and lift to mute, pause, down strum and lift to mute again, then ring the Gm barre for a half measure then ring the Bm for a full measure then it goes into the verse chords ...something like that is how i do it, but i vary it too...no need to go real fast...i like it for a warm up on barre chords and a constant reminder where the open Dm is.

Cheers,

GuitarZen

Hey G

try: Dm/ Bb/ Gm/ Dm/ Bb/ Bm. then to the verse: Dm/ FMaj7/c /  etc

This was alot of fun last we did it...(guess that tune)

J

what strumming pattern did i use? just a basic alternate strumming
i really try to get the progression and transition down
before i try to do anything fancy with my right hand.

and i was doing full chords but barre chords would bring me
up to speed a little faster but even so i
don't really have a good selection of strumming patterns
could use some suggestions just like down up up up down up
any will help

Hello wiggs, i tried your I VI V V7 I prog and it sounds fine to me. 'They' say that if a prog sounds ok to you and if it fits the song you're writing that's it will be good for listening to by others. Does that make sense?

Here's something if you're not doing it this way already...when you move from Am to G (open chords i'm presuming) you could try forming the G with your pinky, ring and middle fingers. That way to get to the G7 all you have to do is lift the pinky and drop the index finger. Also, for fun you could add the G6 chord after the G7 just before you move back to the C chord.

GuitarZen

wiggs wrote:

so from what xaviersky was saying you  replace the certain chord degress  such as  the  IV with sus4 with  and or the V with V7  my progression is C Am G G7 Then back to C  so instead of playing the V chord as V7 i just added the V7 after the V chord is this technically proper?

Bingo J ! There's no sneaking anything by you is there...? Heh, heh...hey, sorry for the late reply....somehow i missed a couple of new posts in a few threads...

So hey everyone, can you 'guess that tune' ?

Cheers,

GuitarZen

P.S. Thanks for pointing out
the missing intro chord J !

69 jaguar wrote:

Hey G

try: Dm/ Bb/ Gm/ Dm/ Bb/ Bm. then to the verse: Dm/ FMaj7/c /  etc

This was alot of fun last we did it...(guess that tune)

J

If you aren't using a simple continuous d u d u you might like it civicstar...ok, so it would look this:

d u d u    d u d u    d u d u   d u d u   d u d u   d u d u 
   Dm         Bb          Gm         Dm         Bb         Bm

This pattern may sound featureless and blah to you at first, but it's up to you to give the pattern 'features' and style by subtle and very slight (but not always) pauses between strums. With this simplest of strumming patterns you don't have to think about your strumming hand much and you can time the strums so that you have plenty of time to change chords before your strumming hand moves downwards again.

You can play the Dm open, which i mostly do for this song, then barre the Bb, same for the Gm...for the Bm i use an open chord i like a lot...here's the fingering and let me know if you have any prob deciphering such and we'll get you going with how that works too if'n you don't already know.

X X 0 4 3 2

Also, i goofed the intro chords to the song i like and you'll notice i've added the second Dm. Thank Jag for pointing that out... and he was subtle about doing so i might add, no doubt to see if i'm paying attn !

Cheers,

GuitarZen

       

civicstar98 wrote:

what strumming pattern did i use? just a basic alternate strumming
i really try to get the progression and transition down
before i try to do anything fancy with my right hand.

and i was doing full chords but barre chords would bring me
up to speed a little faster but even so i
don't really have a good selection of strumming patterns
could use some suggestions just like down up up up down up
any will help

No problem G.  Typo's happen.  I should know, I'm probably the undisputed king of the typo.

J

the gm like you showed helps a bit but i still stumble through the progression a bit will be a while till it sounds like a song as it should

Civ,

That.  XX0432 chord that GZ layed out for you is one of a few open forms of the Bm chord..

J

Like Jag mentioned, the X X 0 4 3 2 is an open Bm chord...easy to 'grab' as Old Tele Man often mentioned during my early years in learning theory and chords.
You'll get the changes going civic, so no worries there...just takes lots of practice. Case in point...i have a flash drive loaded with songs and tabs and i sat down for a couple of hours yesterday reviewing songs i hadn't tried for a while...Bridge Over Troubled Water in particular...i have the chord list at the top of the page and went through them quickly and though i hadn't tried the song for a good while, my fingers just seem to remember what comes next and i even taught myself some new shortcuts when moving from one chord to the next that i hadn't tried before...just keeps getting easier is what i'm trying to say !

GuitarZen

civicstar98 wrote:

the gm like you showed helps a bit but i still stumble through the progression a bit will be a while till it sounds like a song as it should

Hey G,

Maybe you should just tell civic what song it is.  Maybe he's not familiar with it. But that way he could tube it, and get the feel for the rythm, strum wise.
It is somewhat clippy/choppy (thats a technical term..lol) so it is hard to describe in writing.
Just a suggestion,  but I wont tell what song it is. This ones all yours.

J