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"Fundamentals of Music Theory 101"

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2009-08-17 09:22
Old Tele man
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From: Tucson, AZ, USA
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Posts: 891

...no problem, we all learn things differently.

...and the DEVIL said: "...yes, but it's a DRY heat!"
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2009-08-18 19:04
wiggs
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From: Tacoma WA
Registered: 2008-09-16
Posts: 79

i noticed theres been issues with posting these charts, just wondering if theres some web address i could view them at

Old Tele man wrote:

...OK, here is our first excursion beyond the Key of C, specifically the Key of G (1-sharp, 1#):

http://home.comcast.net/~elmccaul/CHRD/DEGREE_CG_00.GIF

...notice how the "C"-chord row has NO empty squares (representing sharp (#) or flat (b) notes) under any of its DEGREE column; but, the "G"-shord does have an empty square, under the VII or Major 7th column (which is F#, hence the 1-sharp Key Signature).

...since the most common song chords are C, F and G, our next new chord is the F (1-flat, 1b):
               
http://home.comcast.net/~elmccaul/CHRD/DEGREE_CGF_00.GIF

...notice how: (a) with the G-chord, the F-note is a halfstep below the M7-degree, so to reach the proper position, the note had to be "raised" (ie: sharped); but, (b) with the F-chord, the B-note is a halfstep above the IV-degree, so to reach the proper position, the note had to be "lowered" (ie: flatted).

It is better to try and fail then never to try at all

You only should compete with your self
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2009-08-18 21:40
Old Tele man
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From: Tucson, AZ, USA
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as stated earlier: "...so far, Qwest hasn't let me post anything, but I actually did archieve ALL those images, so "yes" I have them, just can't get my ISP to provide storage to host / post them."

I can SEND all these files to people, but be advised, they're HUGE!

...and the DEVIL said: "...yes, but it's a DRY heat!"
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2009-08-19 01:24
T0mboy_Rampag3
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From: NSW Australia
Registered: 2007-09-30
Posts: 258

Old Tele man wrote:

as stated earlier: "...so far, Qwest hasn't let me post anything, but I actually did archieve ALL those images, so "yes" I have them, just can't get my ISP to provide storage to host / post them."

I can SEND all these files to people, but be advised, they're HUGE!

Is there any way you could possibly make some place where we can all view them?
it can be great to learn from, but the charts are what we all need.
Would really appreciate it,
TMR3

Music Is The Only Language Where You Cannot Say Or Mean A Sarcastic Thing
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2009-09-19 03:12
beth
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tele man good to see your still at it dude thanks for all that help

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2009-09-20 18:01
69 jaguar
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From: Pennsylvania, USA.
Registered: 2007-12-12
Posts: 637

Hi Beth,

Dont be such a stranger, come join us in the chat room sometime.

Jim

If everything seems to be coming your way,  your probably in the wrong lane !
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2009-09-24 10:31
Old Tele man
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From: Tucson, AZ, USA
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beth wrote:

tele man good to see your still at it dude thanks for all that help

...thanks, Beth! Good to hear from you again.

PS--word to the wise: don't get OLD (ugh!).

...and the DEVIL said: "...yes, but it's a DRY heat!"
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2009-10-16 16:06
fretwoman
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I find this all so complicated as far as theory and all the scales.  I don't think there is any way I could ever memorize so many scales.

All I would like to do is learn how to play a song all the way through.  I can pick out a melody.  If I know the chords, I can find out the key the song is in.  What I would like to know is, once I pick out a melody on the guitar, how can I find which chords and other notes to play along with that melody line.

For example, I have been wanting to play More Than This by Roxy Music on guitar.  There are no acoustic versions or guitar instrumentals of it on YouTube.  I can pick out the melody of that song, but don't know which chords or other notes to play along with it so that it sounds like a complete guitar solo.

Any tips?

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2009-10-17 10:04
GuitarZen
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From: Pacific Northwest
Registered: 2006-11-18
Posts: 1885

Hello fretwoman, welcome to chordbook...well, theory can seem complicated at first, i know it was for me...and i'm still learning. Memorizing scales becomes easier as time goes by i've noticed, so were i wouldn't worry about that for now.

What you ask isn't all that complicated, but there are some things you'd need to know. Have you done some reading in the beginners forum and if not, you might start there. Also, for the Roxy Music song More, you mention you don't find any guitar versions on tube. I'f you are able to find piano music and hopefully a youtube lesson for 'More', you would be able to use those chords for guitar since guitar theory is based on piano theory. I hope this helps and feel free to ask more if it doesn't. Someone will help.

GuitarZen

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2009-12-13 07:19
Petey
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From: West Texas
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fretwoman wrote:

I find this all so complicated as far as theory and all the scales.  I don't think there is any way I could ever memorize so many scales.

All I would like to do is learn how to play a song all the way through.  I can pick out a melody.  If I know the chords, I can find out the key the song is in.  What I would like to know is, once I pick out a melody on the guitar, how can I find which chords and other notes to play along with that melody line.

For example, I have been wanting to play More Than This by Roxy Music on guitar.  There are no acoustic versions or guitar instrumentals of it on YouTube.  I can pick out the melody of that song, but don't know which chords or other notes to play along with it so that it sounds like a complete guitar solo.

Any tips?

here ya go: three different keys/versions:
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/r/r … is_crd.htm
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/r/r … r2_crd.htm
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/r/r … r3_crd.htm

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2010-02-03 11:54
crazsim8
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From: AZ USA
Registered: 2010-01-28
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This is so much to memorize! How can i?

http://www.youtube.com/user/daybyday12music
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2010-02-04 01:25
GuitarZen
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From: Pacific Northwest
Registered: 2006-11-18
Posts: 1885

First you have to want it, then you would have to take it a bit at a time until you begin to make sense out of it and of course ask questions that aren't so general. How does one do anything i guess.

Cheers,

GuitarZen

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2010-02-04 21:37
crazsim8
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Day By Day
From: AZ USA
Registered: 2010-01-28
Posts: 89

Yeah I suppose that was kinda just like '"Hey, give me all the answers!" I've got read, play, and learn. I know this probably isn't the best topic for a question like this, but I'll throw this out there, can anyone give me tips on solos? The beginners section seems to have left me hanging....not to ask a general question again but I just can't get the hang of it! hmm

http://www.youtube.com/user/daybyday12music
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2010-07-29 08:37
Player
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From: Texas
Registered: 2010-07-29
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Old Tele Man,
This is great stuff! Of course, it would be even better if we could see the illustrations.
Have you tried:
1. Google Docs      see   http://www.google.com/google-d-s/documents/
or
2. Picasa      see  http://picasaweb.google.com/

It seems to me either of these approaces should work.  You'll need a Google account, but they're free if you don't already have one.

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2010-08-14 09:51
GuitarZen
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From: Pacific Northwest
Registered: 2006-11-18
Posts: 1885

Hello Player, i apologise for the late welcome and greeting. You make a good point about the illustrations and i was thinking that even photoshop (another free pic host site) would be a good way to go. Still though, the text is useful and anyone can learn theory from it.

GuitarZen

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