Guitar/Bass Amp

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2009-06-17 18:43
badgeno12
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I know you can play a guitar through a bass amp and you shouldn't play a bass through a guitar amp.  So my question is ..... Is there a amp on the market that you could play either bass or guitar through??  Just curious if there is something out there????  Thanks for any help.

1985 Fender Katana Bass
Michael Kelly Visionary AB4 Bass
Vox T-25 Amp
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2009-06-18 02:46
GuitarFreak
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not that i know of but i'm not too good with amps. i just know the ones i want to play on lol.

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2009-06-20 19:18
bobo808
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Never heard of one if there is. Here's the deal, The low frequency from bass requires that its cabinet and all components are by necessity extra reinforced way above and beyond what a guitar needs. Also bass amps are sealed units and guitar amps can have open back designs. So in essence they are totally different creatures that have almost nothing in common.

Bob

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2009-06-20 23:40
GuitarZen
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There's a vintage Fender bass amp out there that I read works great with electric guitar also, something from around '57 i believe, OTM might know something about that amp....or you might google it up or maybe even check fender.com for info/history on such an amp.

GuitarZen

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2009-06-21 19:13
Old Tele man
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...I believe GuitarZen is referring to the 'vintage' Fender 1956 Bassman amp with 4x10" speakers...un-arguably the best blues amplifier ever made.

...in fact, Jim Marshall based his early amplifier circuits on this same design, although he used wholely British components (especially transformers and output power tubes) which greatly contributed to its unique 'British'-sound.

...eventually, Leo Fender realized the popularity of the 4x10" concept and added 'reverb' to make the STILL popular blues/rock Super-Reverb amp (4x10" with REV & VIB). Along the way, the first Bandmaster amp was simply a Bassman circuitry with Vibrato and 3x10" speakers. Another variant was the early 1960's Concert amp with 4x10" speakers (but no REV).

...usually, bass amps have either 2x12" or 2x15" speakers to emphasize LOW notes. Leo's 4x10" Bassman was a totally unique approach -- instead of TWO big speakers, he chose FOUR smaller speakers (which, in total have much MORE air-moving surface), which actually worked (somewhat), but also worked BETTER for guitars! The greater speaker-areas of the 4x10" could push the LOW notes while at the sametime their lighter speaker mass (cone, coil, etc.) allowed them to produce HIGH notes too...actually far better than most "universal" 12-inch speakers.

...another "technical" aspect of *why* the Bassman (and later variants) seem to "sound" different than most other amps is the fact that these amps use a VERY low output transformer impedance of 2-ohms--from 1/2-to-1/4 the typical 4/8-ohms combinations! This low-impedance contributes to a VERY "tight" LOW note output, which blues (and many rock) players crave.

...I have played just about everything--from rock to Bach to jazz to folk--through my 1969 Super Reverb Amp with 4xJBL/D110F speakers...and never have a bad sounding session (of course, the JBL's are unique too).

...and the DEVIL said: "...yes, but it's a DRY heat!"
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2009-06-22 02:04
GuitarZen
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That's the one OTM, the '56 BassMan...thanks and oh boy, guess which amp I want next, but of course I'll never finds a '56, though now I know what to look for. I was actually thinking about the Deville 4x10 and wonder if the Super Reverb reissue would knock my socks off even faster.

Cheers boss and thanks again !

GuitarZen

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2009-06-30 02:57
shaidtan
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The Pod X3 Live (Line6) is a guitar multieffects modeling floor pedal/preamp that includes (I believe) bass modeling.

You should be able to use it with an FRFR (Full Range Flat Response) amp. Basically an FRFR is a PA speaker with a built in power amp.

Both pieces of equipment are designed to handle the frequencies that Bass and Guitar both offer. The Line6 gear includes amp modelling and is designed to go straight into a PA.

--Shaidtan--
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